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GER 8’ bogies in 4mm scale 1 year 1 month ago #285

Thanks Richard. I have referred this Topic to the original enquirer.

Meanwhile, please could you drop me an email to paul1865ATbtinternet.com?

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GER 8’ bogies in 4mm scale 1 year 1 month ago #286

Drawing wise NRM Stratford list numbers (there are likely others) all are GA:

SX16024 appears to be close to the above design - it also states "Class C62 and future classes" and "See 16935".
SX16935 just states "Arrangement of four wheeled bogie for carriages" and is quite poor condition.
SX22085 is a channel steel bogie (similar to the Mangapps ones) "Arrangement of four wheeled bogies for carriages (8'0" Wheelbase; 10" Channel Solebars). This drawing is particularly clear.
SX22748 "Arrangement of Four Wheeled bogie for Suburban Carriages" Dated 1922 and signed by Alfred Hill. Not the clearest drawing but appears to be channel steel again.

I have copies of the above but the NRM rules are strict on their usage.


Just sending you an email now.

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GER 8’ bogies in 4mm scale 11 months 3 weeks ago #423

Comparing the RM drawing and the photo below it there are several more differences...

- the leaf springs are wider in the drawing (on the photo they are only just wider than the wheels;
- only one coil spring in the drawing, vs two in the photo
- the photo has only a small foot/running board (LH side) while the drawing has a more continuous board.
- the cylinders at the extreme ends of the bogie are larger in the photo than the drawing.

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GER 8’ bogies in 4mm scale 11 months 3 weeks ago #430

 

Ruth Ivimey-Cook (rivimey) post=423 wrote: Comparing the RM drawing and the photo below it there are several more differences...

- the leaf springs are wider in the drawing (on the photo they are only just wider than the wheels;
- only one coil spring in the drawing, vs two in the photo
- the photo has only a small foot/running board (LH side) while the drawing has a more continuous board.
- the cylinders at the extreme ends of the bogie are larger in the photo than the drawing.

 

Good spot Ruth. Looking again at the Mangapps bogie (now I wish I'd ducked lower to take this photo!) it looks like the single spring* bogies are the ones described as channel solebar:

 

I've put a * against single spring as looking at drawing SX22085 - the channel steel one, it looks like it has dual springs, but in the other orientation - towards the centre of the bogie rather than along the solebars.

I'm not sure you can read too much into footboards - it is well known that the LNER started economising on footboards from around the mid-1930s and the photo is likely to be then or afterwards. All the drawings I have of GE bogies have full length footboards.

The spring and rubber dampers probably varied depending on the usage of the coach - from what I can tell (and I'm struggling to actually prove) the channel steel bogies were primarily used on suburban stock with the others used on mainline stock - so larger springs and dampers for a smoother ride? Although the photo showing the channel steel bogie looks to not be a suburban coach due to the lack of doors...


 
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GER 8’ bogies in 4mm scale 11 months 3 weeks ago #431

This is the rest of RFO E6109E, photographed at Rayleigh in 1956, on the same occasion as the the shot of the nearer bogie previously posted.  The disposition of the footboards is doubtless a reflection of the layout of the vehicle, and they were probably always like that (see Great Eastern Journal 131-8/9).

 

(Dennis Seabrook Collection/LNER Society)


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GER 8’ bogies in 4mm scale 4 months 3 days ago #686

Which parts specifically did you buy from Roxey please?

Presume other than D&S that is the best known solution?
I have four Trevor Charlton kit bodies to mount...
Thanks 
Steven.

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GER 8’ bogies in 4mm scale 4 months 3 days ago #687

Steven Duhig (SDuhig) post=686 wrote: Which parts specifically did you buy from Roxey please?

Presume other than D&S that is the best known solution?
I have four Trevor Charlton kit bodies to mount...
Thanks 
Steven.
 

Hi Steven,

I just email and ask for the "pseudo GER bogies". The etch is LBSCR plate bogies, I'm not sure what the castings are that get supplied with it. You have to make your own footboards for them (if appropriate).

I'm not aware of any others, it's just a combination that Roxey offered after I sent some photos.

Thanks,
Richard
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